Comments on: Why Is Kezia Telling Us To Buy Drinks? http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks Dating, Relationships, Pickup, Life Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:37:56 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: bobby http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-5108 bobby Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:40:28 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-5108 This is a first for me! I never even thought about reasons why I shouldn't buy a lady a drink within any period of time (then again, I'm no dating expert)...:) I was introduced to the PUA thing by HAF's blog. I tend to wish things were a lot more simple. <abbr><em><em>bobby´s last blog post...<a href="http://bobbyboys.blogspot.com/2008/11/helping-us-to-help-ourselves.html" rel="nofollow">Helping us to help ourselves.</a></em></abbr></em> This is a first for me! I never even thought about reasons why I shouldn’t buy a lady a drink within any period of time (then again, I’m no dating expert)…:)

I was introduced to the PUA thing by HAF’s blog. I tend to wish things were a lot more simple.

bobby´s last blog post…Helping us to help ourselves.

]]> By: Brad http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4989 Brad Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:25:19 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4989 lol... I hear ya... and now that I'm thinking about it, it does seem that she's taking the "choice" away from the guy and putting a "rule" in place. But what do I know, I break all the rules anyway... ... I lean in to talk... ... I buy drinks for strange women... ... I act interested in what people have to say (because I usually am)... Hell, for all the "rule breaking"... I should NEVER get any action... ... oh, but I guess the rule breaking makes me a rebel... hahahahahaha I've really got only one rule: "Have fun and look good doing it..." :) lol… I hear ya… and now that I’m thinking about it, it does seem that she’s taking the “choice” away from the guy and putting a “rule” in place.

But what do I know, I break all the rules anyway…

… I lean in to talk…

… I buy drinks for strange women…

… I act interested in what people have to say (because I usually am)…

Hell, for all the “rule breaking”… I should NEVER get any action…

… oh, but I guess the rule breaking makes me a rebel… hahahahahaha

I’ve really got only one rule:

“Have fun and look good doing it…” :)

]]> By: Lance http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4987 Lance Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:02:41 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4987 Brad, thanks for wading in. That's a good attitude and good way to go. Pretty solid social circle game. I've "invested" in the party by buying rounds because it definitely comes back around. I do it with my friends and in party situations ALL the time...did a bunch of that on Saturday night, in fact. The context in Kezia's video really wasn't social circle, rather it was a cold approach 1-on-1 thing, although you could certainly add the social circle element to anything she said. I just really didn't like the way she suggested that a guy who doesn't buy a drink shortly after opening is cheap or selfish. <abbr><em><em>Lance´s last blog post...<a href="http://honeyandlance.com/what-is-intimacy-anyway" rel="nofollow">What Is Intimacy, Anyway?</a></em></abbr></em> Brad, thanks for wading in. That’s a good attitude and good way to go. Pretty solid social circle game. I’ve “invested” in the party by buying rounds because it definitely comes back around. I do it with my friends and in party situations ALL the time…did a bunch of that on Saturday night, in fact.

The context in Kezia’s video really wasn’t social circle, rather it was a cold approach 1-on-1 thing, although you could certainly add the social circle element to anything she said. I just really didn’t like the way she suggested that a guy who doesn’t buy a drink shortly after opening is cheap or selfish.

Lance´s last blog post…What Is Intimacy, Anyway?

]]> By: Brad http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4983 Brad Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:03:32 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4983 Here's how I work it... I go out to have a good time and I do well enough to burn a few bucks while I'm out. I buy drinks... I generally buy a lot. I'll walk up to the bar and buy a round for a group of complete strangers and then walk away because it's just not that big of a deal. I look at buying drinks as "social currency" and I'm just making deposits. (and because I tend to go to the same places when I DO decide to go out... and because I treat the bar staff so well... many times 30-50% of these "drinks" are free anyway) And the thing is... if you "seed" the right group of people, you'll be introduced to everyone in the bar... ... and you likely won't have to pay for any more drinks that night. The problem occurs when guys buy drinks to "get something out of a situation"... then get disappointed when they don't get the result that they were looking for... and it SHOWS. And I can't tell you how many times I've went to a place that I've "seeded" one or two times before and not had to buy a drink all night... because they keep getting FORCED at you... and people/groups/bartenders won't TAKE your money. So, buy drinks to contribute to FUN, not to get ass. Believe me, it comes around full circle when done in this manner. Just remember, if you completely SHUN buying drinks, then you're basically throwing the baby out with the bath water. <abbr><em><em>Brad´s last blog post...<a href="http://www.angeleyesdevilsmile.com/blog/the-natural-art-of-the-pick-up/" rel="nofollow">The Natural Art Of The Pick Up</a></em></abbr></em> Here’s how I work it…

I go out to have a good time and I do well enough to burn a few bucks while I’m out.

I buy drinks… I generally buy a lot. I’ll walk up to the bar and buy a round for a group of complete strangers and then walk away because it’s just not that big of a deal.

I look at buying drinks as “social currency” and I’m just making deposits.

(and because I tend to go to the same places when I DO decide to go out… and because I treat the bar staff so well… many times 30-50% of these “drinks” are free anyway)

And the thing is… if you “seed” the right group of people, you’ll be introduced to everyone in the bar…

… and you likely won’t have to pay for any more drinks that night.

The problem occurs when guys buy drinks to “get something out of a situation”… then get disappointed when they don’t get the result that they were looking for… and it SHOWS.

And I can’t tell you how many times I’ve went to a place that I’ve “seeded” one or two times before and not had to buy a drink all night… because they keep getting FORCED at you… and people/groups/bartenders won’t TAKE your money.

So, buy drinks to contribute to FUN, not to get ass.

Believe me, it comes around full circle when done in this manner.

Just remember, if you completely SHUN buying drinks, then you’re basically throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Brad´s last blog post…The Natural Art Of The Pick Up

]]> By: Lance http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4971 Lance Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:22:47 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4971 Brent, thanks for reading! You're always welcome to comment and leave your opinion. Brent, thanks for reading! You’re always welcome to comment and leave your opinion.

]]> By: Brent http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4942 Brent Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:07:23 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4942 Very intriguing topic. Kezia being one of the female instructors for PUA Training has to have some insight to what the females are thinking. Now, however, from what I've learned from MM, AM, RSD, and such materials is that there is no specific/solidified rule in buying a drink AS LONG AS YOU AND HER are having FUN and it's NO BIG DEAL. The reason they all it a "rule" is because if you say otherwise, the training session would not run as smoothly. Plan and simple, some people would NOT understand. I agree with the whole task giving things, and it will definitely help if you havn't streamlined. For example, Jlaix from RSD often gives the girl the "make-out question" if she asks for a drink. Style said to ask for something in return like desserts. OR you can be nonchalant to anything regarding drinks like what Tyler did before. Then buy her a drink at a time of your choice. I just recently found this blog. I have to admit, it's very interesting to read, and will keep on reading. Keep up the social life ^^. Brent Very intriguing topic. Kezia being one of the female instructors for PUA Training has to have some insight to what the females are thinking. Now, however, from what I’ve learned from MM, AM, RSD, and such materials is that there is no specific/solidified rule in buying a drink AS LONG AS YOU AND HER are having FUN and it’s NO BIG DEAL. The reason they all it a “rule” is because if you say otherwise, the training session would not run as smoothly. Plan and simple, some people would NOT understand. I agree with the whole task giving things, and it will definitely help if you havn’t streamlined. For example, Jlaix from RSD often gives the girl the “make-out question” if she asks for a drink. Style said to ask for something in return like desserts. OR you can be nonchalant to anything regarding drinks like what Tyler did before. Then buy her a drink at a time of your choice.

I just recently found this blog. I have to admit, it’s very interesting to read, and will keep on reading. Keep up the social life ^^.

Brent

]]> By: Amber http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4914 Amber Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:44:48 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4914 I have to agree with Eathan about regional/cultural differences. I'm a Hispanic woman, and I am not into the 50-50 money split when dating. This even translates to a club, because I tend to think if he's too cheap to buy me a drink when he's out having a good time; it's not going to get any better on a serious date. That's why I love going out in Miami, there the custom is women should never pay for a man's drinks (or their own). Some of my purely American friends think it's chauvanistic, I was raised to think it's respectful. Although having lived in 4 different cities, I adjust quickly to the cultural norms and realize I can't hold it against a guy in certain locations. Anyway, my point is it's hard to make a blanket statement because perception is so culturally influenced. I have to agree with Eathan about regional/cultural differences. I’m a Hispanic woman, and I am not into the 50-50 money split when dating. This even translates to a club, because I tend to think if he’s too cheap to buy me a drink when he’s out having a good time; it’s not going to get any better on a serious date. That’s why I love going out in Miami, there the custom is women should never pay for a man’s drinks (or their own). Some of my purely American friends think it’s chauvanistic, I was raised to think it’s respectful. Although having lived in 4 different cities, I adjust quickly to the cultural norms and realize I can’t hold it against a guy in certain locations. Anyway, my point is it’s hard to make a blanket statement because perception is so culturally influenced.

]]> By: lilez0521 http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4911 lilez0521 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:25:38 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4911 I cosign to that i agree whole-heartedly. As a carnal rule i never buy drinks for women i don't know. If it's friends or if i meet a woman and things go are going well, then most likely i would, but then again you can't say what you would until you get into a situation. I cosign to that i agree whole-heartedly. As a carnal rule i never buy drinks for women i don’t know. If it’s friends or if i meet a woman and things go are going well, then most likely i would, but then again you can’t say what you would until you get into a situation.

]]> By: Infinity http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4800 Infinity Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:02:01 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4800 To piggyback that, I think it is important that the man does initially offer to pay the first time and then go from there. I agree, if women are independent they are going to turned off by at guy that insists on paying for them. The reason they are independent guys is that they are trying to prevent guys like you trying to buy everything for them. They can do that themselves. They want you. Just you. Make sense? <abbr><em><em>Infinity´s last blog post...<a href="http://www.projectinfinity.me/dating/2008/10/29/the-pick-up-artist-episode-3-review.html" rel="nofollow">The Pick Up Artist Episode 3: Review</a></em></abbr></em> To piggyback that, I think it is important that the man does initially offer to pay the first time and then go from there.

I agree, if women are independent they are going to turned off by at guy that insists on paying for them.

The reason they are independent guys is that they are trying to prevent guys like you trying to buy everything for them. They can do that themselves. They want you. Just you.

Make sense?

Infinity´s last blog post…The Pick Up Artist Episode 3: Review

]]> By: Eathan http://honeyandlance.com/why-is-kezia-telling-us-to-buy-drinks/comment-page-1#comment-4777 Eathan Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:10:15 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/?p=1489#comment-4777 You're also right when it comes to pick up. When I was younger, 20, I would go to bars with my friends and bet on who had the most success with out any money. It got to the point where I would leave my wallet in the car. I got in the club for free...get drunk for free (women payed for my drinks) and then of course I always got the phone number and went home with A hottie. Pick up is a talent that doesn't require any money. It just requires a willing spirit to have fun and go with the flow. <abbr><em><em>Eathan´s last blog post...<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/IDateWhite/~3/438053049/" rel="nofollow">Happy Halloween</a></em></abbr></em> You’re also right when it comes to pick up. When I was younger, 20, I would go to bars with my friends and bet on who had the most success with out any money. It got to the point where I would leave my wallet in the car. I got in the club for free…get drunk for free (women payed for my drinks) and then of course I always got the phone number and went home with A hottie.

Pick up is a talent that doesn’t require any money. It just requires a willing spirit to have fun and go with the flow.

Eathan´s last blog post…Happy Halloween

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