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Honey is an expert on online dating and long term relationships. She's based in Flagstaff, Arizona and has happily been in a relationship for two years running. Honey graduates with her PhD in Composition and Rhetoric in December of 2008. You can contact Honey via email here or online here.

Online Dating: Honey’s Greatest Hits

Lance is on vacation, so in honor of his absolute hatred of online dating I thought that I’d throw this post up.  This is one of my absolute favorite Match stories and is dedicated to the following peeps (besides Lance): (1) LisaQ, who asked for more details in the comment section of her article Rules for Breaking Up, (2) The Dateable Dork, who has made it known that she considers online dating to be a metaphorical form of Dumpster Diving, (3) all of you, who I think will really enjoy it.

Setting the Stage

So to set the stage a little, I’d exchanged several lengthy e-mails with this fellow (call him Steve) and I think one phone call prior to meeting.  He had a good job and although I wasn’t totally taken with his photos, he brought them up first and apologized, saying that they weren’t very good but all he had in digital and that he was way better looking in person.  This turned out to be not true, but it’s not like he was a troll or anything.  So I went out with him a couple of times because he was interesting, but avoided anything physically intimate while I decided if I could become attracted to him (which is possible).

After going out with him twice he called me on a night that he had reserved for drinking with his buddies (despite the fact that the bar was less than a mile from my house) to say he was too drunk to drive home and could I come pick him up and drive him back to his car in the morning?  Not at all impressed but not wanting him to drive into a cactus or something, I picked him up (today’s Honey would tell him to call a cab, btw) and we slept in the same bed–although nothing happened (I had to get up early the next morning and he was so drunk he passed out).

I accidentally double-booked myself on what was supposed to be our third official date, and invited him instead to hang out with me and two of my girlfriends (since I didn’t want to be the girl who would blow off girlfriends for a guy).  He accepted but was consistently rude to my best friend all night despite the fact that we were hanging out at her house. This, combined with the fact that I wasn’t particularly attracted to him anyway, inspired me to end it.  Since we’d only been on three dates and hadn’t done more than kiss, I figured that this was a casual enough “relationship” to call off over e-mail rather than in person.  Okay, enter the downward spiral of e-mails:

E-mail #1: A Polite (if Impersonal) Dismissal

Steve, As it turns out, I’ve met someone on Match that I had a really intense connection with right away, so I’ve decided to pursue that. Good luck on your search!

E-Mail #2: His Reply

Honey! Ouch, ouch, ouch. That really hurt! I thought we had a connection… at least one that merited more than a one-sentence Email dismissal.

I wish I knew why I keep running into women who can sleep with me and then discard me like yesterday’s trash. I’m not cut out for this shit. I would simply be disappointed that you found someone who interests you more if you acted with a little more respect - ie, a call or maybe a thoughtful note. I’m not out here for casual relationships but looking for someone for keeps, as I made clear.

Sorry I bothered.

Anyway, I can see I didn’t lose anything worth keeping…just another self absorbed college student.

E-mail #3: Maybe He Deserves The Truth

Steve, I’m sorry if my message sounded terse, but then it’s a pretty awkward thing to have to say, and I generally find  that it’s better to say less than to say more. That can become a downward spiral pretty quickly. I guess everyone has a different technique when faced with such an icky situation. And while we slept in the same bed, we never slept together, and we only saw each other three or four times. I understand what you’re saying about looking for someone “for keeps,” and you did make that clear, but we  certainly never got past the very casual stage and I thought it was more polite to break things off now than continue to see you when I knew it wouldn’t work long-term.

Reading your e-mail, I started to wonder if in trying to be polite I’m actually doing people a disservice. I  wondered when women typically break it off with you. While it’s true I did meet someone with whom the connection was really intense and immediate, the truth also is that I was kind of relieved that happened, because after we hung out the other night I learned that my friends didn’t like you. And, given the intensity of grad school and the amount of time I spend with them, that just isn’t a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
 
If you want to continue to think of me as self-absorbed that’s fine, I suppose–I understand why that might be an attractive thing for you to believe and there might even be some truth to it. But if you really are looking for  something serious with someone, then maybe it’s a little more constructive of me to give you a little more information.

E-mail #4: He Turns Out to be Crazy

Honey, You’re probably right that less is best when it comes to these things. I think something a little more thoughtful  would have been nice, but I was mainly just upset to have things end. I don’t feel seduced and abandoned…we didn’t have sex, but to me, that made it more important. I don’t think of you as self absorbed. I don’t know you. You don’t know me. I just thought there was some physical chemistry and ease of conversation, really important qualities that made things worth exploring. I find it troubling that you would dismiss me because what two angry women with major league axes to grind have to say about me. For the record, I thought they were pretty cool, regardless of the knee-jerk assessment they made of me and probably make of just about everyone they meet, including half of their classmates and teachers in the night I was there. [Side note: when I told my best friend about this later, she was insulted.  She said, "those weren't knee-jerk assessments!  It took me almost three years to draw those conclusions!"] These are some seriously jaded people - and not the people I would use as a lens to view others, even if they are worthy friends.

Needless to say, it’s a slightly awkward situation when you have to hangout with someone’s friends the second time you see her. I resisted the obvious implication that I was being set up for judging, and just came over, because I don’t worry about these things. But I can’t say I felt at ease. I won’t even ask what led to their judgment because it doesn’t matter - only your’s does. And you’ve given it. Anyway, I don’t want to get into the downward spiral, as you put it. I am just disappointed. I saw possibilities with you, nothing more, and hate to see things end before any truth can be discerned. Then again, I don’t want to waste time with someone who’s so easily dissuaded. I am truly interested in a serious relationship, and was interested in having one with you. But something in your manner the last time I saw you told me that wouldn’t happen, so I have been in touch with other women, went on a date Saturday, even while hoping that you might still be interested.

No hard feelings. Sorry for the snide note, and best of luck. 

E-Mail #5: A Defense of My Friends: Or, Sometimes I Can’t Leave Well Enough Alone

Subject Line: I’m sorry…

…I lost track of who the angry, jaded person(s)with major-league axes to grind making knee-jerk assessments were in this scenario? 

In any case, I’ll take your apology as it was obviously intended…an opportunity to make yet another snide remark.  Good luck on your search.

E-Mail #6: When Sarcasm Fails

This is all totally irrelevant, because I said I apologized and had no hard feelings and wished you the best, but if you want to know:

I was referring to your two friends… the ones who didn’t have anything good to say about anything or anyone. The ones who made fun of everyone and everything when I was there. I wasn’t trying to be snide. I wasn’t trying to belittle them. In fact, I said I thought they were kind of cool. I just said that people with such a negative outlook might not be the best people to use for a character judgment. I thought they were moving out of town anyway.

I was just disappointed and my note should only reflect that, as well as a sincere apology. I guess I felt slightly blindsided by how things happened but none of this really matters because you’ve made your decision. And as I said at the end of my note, I accepted it and have no hard feelings. Everything else is irrelevant.

This is the life of the single.


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9 Comments »

Comment by Holly HoffmanNo Gravatar
2008-08-21 14:50:09

Oh, that’s hilarious. The email exchange was longer than the dating period!

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Comment by mirandaNo Gravatar
2008-08-21 15:45:23

This could have come out of my own gmail account! Love it lady.

 
Comment by lisaqNo Gravatar
2008-08-21 17:40:20

Haha…Good Lord! I’m so glad you posted this. Sounds like a major bullet dodge!

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Comment by NewWrldYankeeNo Gravatar Subscribed to comments via email
2008-08-21 18:12:42

That was the BEST email exchange ever! Nuff said

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Comment by dadshouseNo Gravatar
2008-08-22 12:09:30

Sounds like you guys have a lot of history and really deep connection. Are you still seeing him on the sly?

heh heh… too funny!

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Comment by NMLNo Gravatar
2008-08-22 13:05:15

I was actually howling with laughter reading this! Serious assclown alert and exactly why I hate online dating. You actually did the right thing by keeping it brief - no explanation is the right explanation with these crackerjacks. If you’d sent him a four page letter in the first place, he’d have complained. You handled him well though!

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Comment by The Dateable DorkNo Gravatar
2008-08-23 16:03:04

Holy shit! That was seriously intense, not to mention awkward, uncomfortable, surprising, and aggressive. Honey, I’m proud of you for handling this so well - I admit that you were more polite than I would have been in that situation, especially in the later emails.

On another note, it’s hard not to be intensely defensive in this type of situation - on your side AND on his. Your body’s natural instinct is to get on the defense when you’ve been dumped, and it’s also impossible not to get defensive when someone’s verbally attacking your friends and your character/judgment. With two people highly on the defense, strong words are bound to ensue, which always leads to this type of email exchange.

I think you were totally justified in ending it over email, considering it was only a few dates and you didn’t sleep with him. If he couldn’t handle that, well, he shouldn’t be dating in the first place. As for attacking your friends, that was totally out of line and completely unnecessary - just a defense mechanism to make himself feel better, in my opinion.

Man, I could go on and on about this! Suffice it to say: whoa, what a crappy situation. Thanks for sharing, hon.

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Comment by marcNo Gravatar
2008-08-25 10:12:43

This is why I rarely exchange email addresses with dates. Email is too easy a form of communication that allows people to overthink and overanalyze, and get sucked into unnecessary drama. If I’m not interested in someone, I prefer the old fashioned no call back - as in: “when the phone ain’t ringing, you’ll know it’s me.”

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Comment by HoneyNo Gravatar
2008-08-25 11:37:19

I had a throwaway account that I used just for Match, so if someone turned out to be too crazy then they wouldn’t have “real” contact information. But I do see your point, for sure.

 
 
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