Comments on: Lance: How to Get Phone Numbers, Prevent Flakes, Get Dates http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing The Straight Dope On Everything In The Universe Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:14:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: I Was Bold, She Was Beautiful | The Confidence Guy http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-3916 I Was Bold, She Was Beautiful | The Confidence Guy Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:30:25 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-3916 [...] I’m flirting like a trooper, and at the end of the night I point blank ask her for her number. Now, my friends will tell you that that’s really not my style. At all. I love to flirt, but I can actually be quite shy with women and I’m certainly no pick-up artist. [...] [...] I’m flirting like a trooper, and at the end of the night I point blank ask her for her number. Now, my friends will tell you that that’s really not my style. At all. I love to flirt, but I can actually be quite shy with women and I’m certainly no pick-up artist. [...]

]]> By: Lance http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-722 Lance Wed, 21 May 2008 00:22:30 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-722 I agree with that 100%...you're basically selling yourself on the dating market. Many of the principles crossover too, such as illiciting values, bait hook reel release, closing, etc etc. IMO pickup could be more mainstream if it was marketed as "personal marketing" or something along those lines...but who really wants PU to be mainstream?? I don't. I agree with that 100%…you’re basically selling yourself on the dating market. Many of the principles crossover too, such as illiciting values, bait hook reel release, closing, etc etc. IMO pickup could be more mainstream if it was marketed as “personal marketing” or something along those lines…but who really wants PU to be mainstream?? I don’t.

]]> By: Hot Alpha Female http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-719 Hot Alpha Female Tue, 20 May 2008 22:42:18 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-719 U know as i listen to more tapes, read more books and gain more dating experience. I realise that if you were a guy .. then picking up a chick is very much like being a salesman. But instead of selling a product ... in a way you are the product that you are selling. There are so many similarities between the two and i think guys would have a lot better chance at veiwing chicks to pick up as a numbers game. In which a certain number of chicks will be interested depending on your approach and then you can refine your strategy to get more numbers in. lol HAF Hot Alpha Females last blog post..<a href="http://hotalphafemale.blogspot.com/2008/05/what-you-dont-know-that-you-dont-know.html" rel="nofollow">What You Don't Know That You Don't Know</a> U know as i listen to more tapes, read more books and gain more dating experience. I realise that if you were a guy .. then picking up a chick is very much like being a salesman.

But instead of selling a product … in a way you are the product that you are selling.

There are so many similarities between the two and i think guys would have a lot better chance at veiwing chicks to pick up as a numbers game.

In which a certain number of chicks will be interested depending on your approach and then you can refine your strategy to get more numbers in. lol

HAF

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]]> By: Me Thinks http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-702 Me Thinks Sun, 18 May 2008 06:34:51 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-702 You hit it on the head. I think 20-year olds are overwhelmed and by the time you are in your 30s you are smart and selective enough to share it with someone you connect with. Really there is a missing piece here which is - the person giving the number. Are they mature enough to make these decisions and tell someone to take a hike if they aren't interested? And yes, the game of calling their number as you give it to them "to store it" is a huge, sort of lame, GAME - I'll agree if the guy is connecting with me. You hit it on the head. I think 20-year olds are overwhelmed and by the time you are in your 30s you are smart and selective enough to share it with someone you connect with. Really there is a missing piece here which is - the person giving the number. Are they mature enough to make these decisions and tell someone to take a hike if they aren’t interested?

And yes, the game of calling their number as you give it to them “to store it” is a huge, sort of lame, GAME - I’ll agree if the guy is connecting with me.

]]> By: Lance http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-699 Lance Sat, 17 May 2008 21:46:20 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-699 I noticed the same thing, comfort levels for giving out numbers is related to age. That's also a cool little trick for making sure the number isn't a fake, ie calling her from right there or punching it into her phone...I've done that one a bunch. On another note, I want to re-emphasize that the deeper you connect with the other person and the more you blow him/her away with your personality, the easier it is to get the number. I mean, if you're single, you WANT to give those things out right, if the other person isn't a douche?? Ironic, because I'm the player who's telling people to wow them with your personality and not worry so much about getting digits. It's almost like conventional wisdom ;) I noticed the same thing, comfort levels for giving out numbers is related to age. That’s also a cool little trick for making sure the number isn’t a fake, ie calling her from right there or punching it into her phone…I’ve done that one a bunch.

On another note, I want to re-emphasize that the deeper you connect with the other person and the more you blow him/her away with your personality, the easier it is to get the number. I mean, if you’re single, you WANT to give those things out right, if the other person isn’t a douche??

Ironic, because I’m the player who’s telling people to wow them with your personality and not worry so much about getting digits. It’s almost like conventional wisdom ;)

]]> By: Holly Hoffman http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-698 Holly Hoffman Sat, 17 May 2008 21:15:18 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-698 I actually talked with two of my guy friends about this just this morning, and they said the same thing you did - that girls very rarely will call. But, I like what Marta (what's up, big sis?!) says below about calling from right there to "lock it into your phone." And I guess I am the exception, in more ways than one. LOL. Holly Hoffmans last blog post..<a href="http://www.worklovelife.com/2008/05/simple-productivity-method-that-yields.html" rel="nofollow">A Simple Productivity Method That Yields Results</a> I actually talked with two of my guy friends about this just this morning, and they said the same thing you did - that girls very rarely will call. But, I like what Marta (what’s up, big sis?!) says below about calling from right there to “lock it into your phone.” And I guess I am the exception, in more ways than one. LOL.

Holly Hoffmans last blog post..A Simple Productivity Method That Yields Results

]]> By: Marta http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-676 Marta Sat, 17 May 2008 13:36:38 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-676 I think the closing on a number game can be age dependent. I am 31. I give guys my number if I am interested in them. (Meaning: They're hot, witty, and charming.) What I've noticed about dating as a 30-something is most people want to exchange numbers. I think guys have a few more years experience on being flaked on, so they call you out..."Don't you want my number too?" or they'll put your number in their cell phone and call you while you're standing in front of him. This lets them know that A) you did't give them a fake number and B) you now have their number in your cell. Hottie Holly Hoffman is my little sister, and yes...we were taught to not give out our numbers. When I was 26, I didn't give out my number. I, too, would ask for the guy's number if they asked for mine. I usually didn't call. I think the closing on a number game can be age dependent. I am 31. I give guys my number if I am interested in them. (Meaning: They’re hot, witty, and charming.) What I’ve noticed about dating as a 30-something is most people want to exchange numbers. I think guys have a few more years experience on being flaked on, so they call you out…”Don’t you want my number too?” or they’ll put your number in their cell phone and call you while you’re standing in front of him. This lets them know that A) you did’t give them a fake number and B) you now have their number in your cell.

Hottie Holly Hoffman is my little sister, and yes…we were taught to not give out our numbers. When I was 26, I didn’t give out my number. I, too, would ask for the guy’s number if they asked for mine. I usually didn’t call.

]]> By: The Virgin http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-673 The Virgin Sat, 17 May 2008 00:07:45 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-673 Ugh....Paul Janka did Dr. Phil? (On an man-hating episode entitled "Male Egos Out of Control" no less?) I think I just lost a little respect for Janka, even Style (Mr. Dayshow Marketing himself) turned down Dr. Phil. Oh, anyway... "and you really blow her away, she’ll actually close herself," Indeed, my good man. "When they like you, they help you." Ultimately actions speak louder than words. Unfortunately, took me many years to learn that. The Virgins last blog post..<a href="http://www.vcarded.com/psychology/the-plight-of-the-beautiful-woman/" rel="nofollow">The plight of the beautiful woman</a> Ugh….Paul Janka did Dr. Phil? (On an man-hating episode entitled “Male Egos Out of Control” no less?) I think I just lost a little respect for Janka, even Style (Mr. Dayshow Marketing himself) turned down Dr. Phil. Oh, anyway…

“and you really blow her away, she’ll actually close herself,”

Indeed, my good man. “When they like you, they help you.” Ultimately actions speak louder than words. Unfortunately, took me many years to learn that.

The Virgins last blog post..The plight of the beautiful woman

]]> By: Lance http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-672 Lance Fri, 16 May 2008 23:59:39 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-672 Holly, you're the exception in this instance, not the rule. It's my experience that when you give a girl your number, she never (or rarely) contacts you back. Maybe it's because she's being chased already she doesn't need to pursue. HOWEVER, if the guy's game is really tight and you EXCHANGE numbers, she will often text first. I've had this happen many times and I really try to strengthen my connections to the point where the girls <i>want</i> to contact me. On another note, I calibrate to the individual and try to suss out what she is more likely to respond to, ie phone calls, texts, myspace exchanges, etc etc. A lot of chicks won't accept phone calls, but they're happy to text with you or make myspace friends, so if you can figure that out then you can switch your game to myspace game once you get home. Same thing with texting, a lot of girls won't take the call but they'll play the flirty text game with you. BTW, can I give you my number? Holly, you’re the exception in this instance, not the rule. It’s my experience that when you give a girl your number, she never (or rarely) contacts you back. Maybe it’s because she’s being chased already she doesn’t need to pursue. HOWEVER, if the guy’s game is really tight and you EXCHANGE numbers, she will often text first. I’ve had this happen many times and I really try to strengthen my connections to the point where the girls want to contact me.

On another note, I calibrate to the individual and try to suss out what she is more likely to respond to, ie phone calls, texts, myspace exchanges, etc etc. A lot of chicks won’t accept phone calls, but they’re happy to text with you or make myspace friends, so if you can figure that out then you can switch your game to myspace game once you get home. Same thing with texting, a lot of girls won’t take the call but they’ll play the flirty text game with you.

BTW, can I give you my number?

]]> By: Holly Hoffman http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-667 Holly Hoffman Fri, 16 May 2008 14:13:34 +0000 http://honeyandlance.com/lances-number-closing#comment-667 Thanks for the shout out. ;) Coming from the female end of things, I *rarely* give out my number. I was just taught not to do that. I tend to opt for the "why don't you give me yours?" line instead. Then, it's my choice and I can decide whether or not I want to talk to him again. I don't know why more guys don't give their numbers. It's kind of hot - it means you're confident enough to let the ball be in her court. It also makes me more comfortable with you - I know you're not a sleazeball with a GF who has to get my number b/c you're afraid of getting calls from another girl, and I know you're not going to stalk me or something crazy like that. As long as there's something memorable about you (you made me laugh, were witty, etc.), then I'll probably at least text you. I might not be willing to give you my number, but I'll take yours. Holly Hoffmans last blog post..<a href="http://www.worklovelife.com/2008/05/simple-productivity-method-that-yields.html" rel="nofollow">A Simple Productivity Method That Yields Results</a> Thanks for the shout out. ;)

Coming from the female end of things, I *rarely* give out my number. I was just taught not to do that. I tend to opt for the “why don’t you give me yours?” line instead. Then, it’s my choice and I can decide whether or not I want to talk to him again.

I don’t know why more guys don’t give their numbers. It’s kind of hot - it means you’re confident enough to let the ball be in her court. It also makes me more comfortable with you - I know you’re not a sleazeball with a GF who has to get my number b/c you’re afraid of getting calls from another girl, and I know you’re not going to stalk me or something crazy like that.

As long as there’s something memorable about you (you made me laugh, were witty, etc.), then I’ll probably at least text you. I might not be willing to give you my number, but I’ll take yours.

Holly Hoffmans last blog post..A Simple Productivity Method That Yields Results

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