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		<title>By: My Great Online Dating Experiment : Brazen Careerist</title>
		<link>http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game/comment-page-1#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>My Great Online Dating Experiment : Brazen Careerist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s just that I simply didn’t feel it. And although this might add credence to what some guys call impossibly high standards, I just couldn’t handle that he tucked his T-shirts into his jeans and wore a belt too. I don’t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s just that I simply didn’t feel it. And although this might add credence to what some guys call impossibly high standards, I just couldn’t handle that he tucked his T-shirts into his jeans and wore a belt too. I don’t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
		<link>http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game/comment-page-1#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly Gems, of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; I know that it&#039;s not her real name :-)  I was making fun of &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt;.  And me, a little.  In case you didn&#039;t know, Honey may or may not be my real name...

&lt;em&gt;Honey&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly Gems, of <i>course</i> I know that it&#8217;s not her real name <img src='http://honeyandlance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I was making fun of <i>you</i>.  And me, a little.  In case you didn&#8217;t know, Honey may or may not be my real name&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Honey&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game' rel="nofollow">Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game/comment-page-1#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, you&#039;re the bomb. If you&#039;re in OTown this summer hit me up. I&#039;ll take you out and teach you to run game. Then I&#039;ll try to makeout with you on the first date.

&lt;em&gt;Lance&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, you&#8217;re the bomb. If you&#8217;re in OTown this summer hit me up. I&#8217;ll take you out and teach you to run game. Then I&#8217;ll try to makeout with you on the first date.</p>
<p><em>Lance&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game' rel="nofollow">Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game/comment-page-1#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly Virgos. Kitty is clearly NOT her real first name. It would be too hazardous for me to publish that.

&lt;em&gt;Lance&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly Virgos. Kitty is clearly NOT her real first name. It would be too hazardous for me to publish that.</p>
<p><em>Lance&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game' rel="nofollow">Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
		<link>http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game/comment-page-1#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, I feel your pain.  I just wanted to date, too (though always open to more if it happened), so in retrospect perhaps I was cruel and opportunistic in my dates.  I used to tell people there were two kinds of guys online: those who wanted to have sex tonight(the winks and one-line e-mail guys) and those who want to get married tomorrow.

I never responded to winks and refused to let things progress to the phone-call stage if the guy used IM shortcuts instead of typing real words and/or refused to write at least one decently long paragraph.  It either meant they weren&#039;t trying or weren&#039;t capable of more, and neither of those things is attractive to me.

However, the guys who put any effort in and wrote thoughtful, funny notes were also the guys who said things like &quot;I think I&#039;m falling for you&quot; on the third date.  Ick.  Perhaps you can find a way to insert your desire for something casual into your profile in a fun, playful way that won&#039;t attack anyone&#039;s life choices but will serve as an effective screening tool?

&lt;em&gt;Honey&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, I feel your pain.  I just wanted to date, too (though always open to more if it happened), so in retrospect perhaps I was cruel and opportunistic in my dates.  I used to tell people there were two kinds of guys online: those who wanted to have sex tonight(the winks and one-line e-mail guys) and those who want to get married tomorrow.</p>
<p>I never responded to winks and refused to let things progress to the phone-call stage if the guy used IM shortcuts instead of typing real words and/or refused to write at least one decently long paragraph.  It either meant they weren&#8217;t trying or weren&#8217;t capable of more, and neither of those things is attractive to me.</p>
<p>However, the guys who put any effort in and wrote thoughtful, funny notes were also the guys who said things like &#8220;I think I&#8217;m falling for you&#8221; on the third date.  Ick.  Perhaps you can find a way to insert your desire for something casual into your profile in a fun, playful way that won&#8217;t attack anyone&#8217;s life choices but will serve as an effective screening tool?</p>
<p><em>Honey&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game' rel="nofollow">Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Holly Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely played. I&#039;m impressed by the game plan, and wish any of my dating site dates had done half so much. Maybe I would&#039;ve been a little more inclined toward smooch action (or any action for that matter) if they had. For the most part, they&#039;ve all asked me to pick the place, which is fine. But realize that I&#039;ve been on four dates in the past week. I&#039;m just asking for a little effort here, fellas.

I&#039;ve only been online dating for a few weeks now, but I have the same complaint toward guys online - they all seem to be looking for a relationship. I just want to &lt;i&gt;date&lt;/i&gt;. All the guys I&#039;ve seen have these profiles about looking for The One, how they are maritally-inclined and all want a specific number of kids. Are you kidding me? Is there not a man out there with the balls to at least put &quot;not sure&quot; under the children category? I have to wonder if guys are putting this stuff because they think that&#039;s what women want. And if so, then they&#039;re blowing it with me, that&#039;s for sure. 

As to cutting through the &quot;white noise&quot; as you call it, it sounds like you&#039;ve got it licked. All I want is a little creativity. More than just a f*ing wink or &quot;hey what&#039;s up&quot;. That&#039;s it? You&#039;re so interesting that&#039;s all you need? &lt;i&gt;Delete&lt;/i&gt;.

Good luck on the makeout close. I have a rule with Internet dating and intimacy: 1st date, no action &lt;i&gt;period&lt;/i&gt;; 2nd date, smooching if you pass; and 3rd, well...

&lt;em&gt;Holly Hoffman&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.worklovelife.com/2008/05/optimize-your-space-for-maximum.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Optimize Your Space for Maximum Productivity – And Happiness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely played. I&#8217;m impressed by the game plan, and wish any of my dating site dates had done half so much. Maybe I would&#8217;ve been a little more inclined toward smooch action (or any action for that matter) if they had. For the most part, they&#8217;ve all asked me to pick the place, which is fine. But realize that I&#8217;ve been on four dates in the past week. I&#8217;m just asking for a little effort here, fellas.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only been online dating for a few weeks now, but I have the same complaint toward guys online &#8211; they all seem to be looking for a relationship. I just want to <i>date</i>. All the guys I&#8217;ve seen have these profiles about looking for The One, how they are maritally-inclined and all want a specific number of kids. Are you kidding me? Is there not a man out there with the balls to at least put &#8220;not sure&#8221; under the children category? I have to wonder if guys are putting this stuff because they think that&#8217;s what women want. And if so, then they&#8217;re blowing it with me, that&#8217;s for sure. </p>
<p>As to cutting through the &#8220;white noise&#8221; as you call it, it sounds like you&#8217;ve got it licked. All I want is a little creativity. More than just a f*ing wink or &#8220;hey what&#8217;s up&#8221;. That&#8217;s it? You&#8217;re so interesting that&#8217;s all you need? <i>Delete</i>.</p>
<p>Good luck on the makeout close. I have a rule with Internet dating and intimacy: 1st date, no action <i>period</i>; 2nd date, smooching if you pass; and 3rd, well&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Holly Hoffman&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.worklovelife.com/2008/05/optimize-your-space-for-maximum.html' rel="nofollow">Optimize Your Space for Maximum Productivity – And Happiness</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the online thing for 4.5 years and never had anything that lasted longer than a couple of months--either one person or the other wasn&#039;t into it.  I think it&#039;s because, as Lance says, the fact that there are so many people on there makes standards rise accordingly (and unrealistically).  

As a girl who&#039;d just moved to a new city, though, it was a great way to save money and learn all the great new restaurants.  Every time a guy wanted to take me out I&#039;d say, take me to your favorite place.  Awesome--I got the layout of the city as well as tasty new places to eat.

While I didn&#039;t end up with someone off a dating site, my boyfriend and I DID meet on myspace, so it can happen.  And regardless, I don&#039;t consider my time on the dating site a waste.  I learned a tremendous amount about myself and what I wanted very quickly.  If I&#039;d done the traditional thing then I&#039;d either have meet no one or been in LTRs with total losers and spent twice as long learning half as much.

On a totally different note, Kitty is the lamest REAL name ever.  As a pet name?  Sure--my boyfriend calls me that all the time.  But as your ACTUAL name?

Oh, who am I kidding.  I&#039;m named after bee regurgitation.

&lt;em&gt;Honey&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the online thing for 4.5 years and never had anything that lasted longer than a couple of months&#8211;either one person or the other wasn&#8217;t into it.  I think it&#8217;s because, as Lance says, the fact that there are so many people on there makes standards rise accordingly (and unrealistically).  </p>
<p>As a girl who&#8217;d just moved to a new city, though, it was a great way to save money and learn all the great new restaurants.  Every time a guy wanted to take me out I&#8217;d say, take me to your favorite place.  Awesome&#8211;I got the layout of the city as well as tasty new places to eat.</p>
<p>While I didn&#8217;t end up with someone off a dating site, my boyfriend and I DID meet on myspace, so it can happen.  And regardless, I don&#8217;t consider my time on the dating site a waste.  I learned a tremendous amount about myself and what I wanted very quickly.  If I&#8217;d done the traditional thing then I&#8217;d either have meet no one or been in LTRs with total losers and spent twice as long learning half as much.</p>
<p>On a totally different note, Kitty is the lamest REAL name ever.  As a pet name?  Sure&#8211;my boyfriend calls me that all the time.  But as your ACTUAL name?</p>
<p>Oh, who am I kidding.  I&#8217;m named after bee regurgitation.</p>
<p><em>Honey&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://honeyandlance.com/kitty-lance-email-game' rel="nofollow">Cool Email Game + Date Setup With Kitty</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, honestly I&#039;m an online dating hater. I swore off online dating in January and de-activated my account until a couple of weeks ago. I got so busy that I didn&#039;t have the energy/time to go out and pickup in field. My experience is that most online chicks are looking for a serious BF or marriage, and their standards are impossibly high. Plus, there are very few truly hot women on there. Doesn&#039;t jive with me. They&#039;re also getting flooded with hundreds of emails from chodes, so it&#039;s hard to get through the white noise sometimes. 

You&#039;re in tough spot...if you live in an area where there are no singles, online dating might be your only choice. Keep playing the numbers. If you get 1-2 nights per week where you can go out on the town, go to SF and hit a few bars and strike up conversations. That would be my strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, honestly I&#8217;m an online dating hater. I swore off online dating in January and de-activated my account until a couple of weeks ago. I got so busy that I didn&#8217;t have the energy/time to go out and pickup in field. My experience is that most online chicks are looking for a serious BF or marriage, and their standards are impossibly high. Plus, there are very few truly hot women on there. Doesn&#8217;t jive with me. They&#8217;re also getting flooded with hundreds of emails from chodes, so it&#8217;s hard to get through the white noise sometimes. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re in tough spot&#8230;if you live in an area where there are no singles, online dating might be your only choice. Keep playing the numbers. If you get 1-2 nights per week where you can go out on the town, go to SF and hit a few bars and strike up conversations. That would be my strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: dadshouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>dadshouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Okay, this is what we’re going to tell people about how we met. Blah blah blah.” - that&#039;s brilliant. Love it.

Question - how much do you rely on online dating vs. approaching women in public? I&#039;ve had great success with online dating for &lt;i&gt;meeting&lt;/i&gt; women, and lousy luck with it for those becoming girlfriends I date. I&#039;m sort of on an &lt;i&gt;I hate online dating&lt;/i&gt; kick and am refusing to use it, but now I&#039;m not meeting anyone. (Not many places where I live that a 40-something guy can meet single women.) Wondering how others do it.

&lt;em&gt;dadshouse&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://dadshouseblog.com/2008/05/01/birds-bees-and-axe-body-spray/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Birds, Bees, and Axe Body Spray&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Okay, this is what we’re going to tell people about how we met. Blah blah blah.” &#8211; that&#8217;s brilliant. Love it.</p>
<p>Question &#8211; how much do you rely on online dating vs. approaching women in public? I&#8217;ve had great success with online dating for <i>meeting</i> women, and lousy luck with it for those becoming girlfriends I date. I&#8217;m sort of on an <i>I hate online dating</i> kick and am refusing to use it, but now I&#8217;m not meeting anyone. (Not many places where I live that a 40-something guy can meet single women.) Wondering how others do it.</p>
<p><em>dadshouse&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://dadshouseblog.com/2008/05/01/birds-bees-and-axe-body-spray/' rel="nofollow">Birds, Bees, and Axe Body Spray</a></em></p>
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